Individual Recovery to Community Transformation

Part 2 of 2: A Conversation with Dr. Anderson Spickard and James Butler


Dr. Anderson Spickard, a medical doctor with over 40 years of experience in addiction medicine and James Butler, a recovering addict, join forces to discuss the issue of addiction that impacts each and every one of us in some way. Together with Barbara Thompson they wrote an insightful book, The Craving Brain: Science, Spirituality and a Pathway to Recovery, to help take the science behind addiction and bring it to life.

In this podcast episode, Dr. Spickard and James are interviewed by JfL’s Shay Bethea, Director of Network Relationships, and Byron McMillan, Director of Content and Training. It is the heart of both Shay and Byron to equip the church through training and coaching around issues that happen in and through Jobs for Life classes. This insightful podcast goes deep into the issues we face around addiction and our role in the healing process. James asks, ““What if we refuse to let our greatest resource fall prey to the disease of addiction?” We will see community transformation.

Also in this episode, Dr. Spickard references an interaction between Mark Schultz and the student he partnered with in a JfL class. For the story behind this song, click here.

This is part 2 of a series of 2 podcast episodes where James and Dr. Spickard share their hearts and minds. James is especially open and honest about his journey and the healing process. It takes time, work and courage.

To listen to the first podcast, click here.


1:28 … How you can help the recovery process

4:12 … Partnering for resources

4:35 … Importance of relationships & home group programs

5:26 … Peer-based recovery  (Healing Transitions in North Carolina)

6:34 … Being intentional about relationships

8:20 … Experience binds people together for life (Story behind No Place Love Won’t Go)

8:46 … “Functioning” addicts

12:37 … Bringing the story behind Denzel Washington’s movie Flight to real life

14:47 … Dealing with the trauma

16:07 … Road to freedom

21:51 … Courage to go deep

23:42 … Sobriety revolution (Indians of Alkali Lake)

25:25 … From individual recovery to community transformation (Recovery NC, The Anonymous People Movie)

About The Author

David Spickard

David Spickard, Jobs for Life, President & CEO

Husband, dad, son, brother; born in Nashville, TN; lives in Raleigh, NC; adores his wife, Alice, four children and anything Carolina Blue; member of Christ the King; CEO at Jobs for Life. You can follow David at and @davidbspickard.